**Spoiler! - Another one used ****

[Alz]

You know - I get the feeling Nagini might be beyond Voldemort's powers - I get the feeling that she is all but as strong and maybe stronger...
Because of Voldemort being re-born on the milk of Nagini, Voldemort looking like a snake, Voldemort being able to talk to snakes .. plus all the other links that point towards Voldemort and snakes ... I think that there in a deeper intergration ...
I wonder if Nagini is the result of the parts of Voldemort he removed in an effort to be more than a mortal ...?

I came across this while looking around .... then it came to me!
What if when Wormtail was milking Nagini - he was in fact using one of Voldemort's Horcruxes to ressurect?

Just wondering if he did use Nagini - and that he has also used another one of his 7?

[Fortescue]

I think by milking her it meant using her venom the way they do a rattlesnake - I don't think he could use a little of the bit of his soul at a time - he'd have to use the entire thing as it already seemed to be split rather fine. Besides, he had a soul, just not a body. I think he keeps Nagini near by so if something happens, and he loses his body again, he has that bit of soul locked inside of her to revert to. I still think that when he attacked Harry and lost his body, he also lost one bit of his soul, and had to use one he had stored. So, if that's the case, there are only four more bits of Voldemort's soul, that includes the one he's using now.

[kashlie]

I was just saying this in another thread, that perhaps he used the bones of his father as a Horcrux, so when it came to his rebirthing, he used that part of his soul. I think when he was ripped from his body, there may have not been enough of a soul to re-inhabit it again unless he used one of his Horcruxes. It was just a thought, and I never did think of Nagini being the part he could have used.

[Alz]

I think by milking her it meant using her venom the way they do a rattlesnake - I don't think he could use a little of the bit of his soul at a time - he'd have to use the entire thing as it already seemed to be split rather fine. Besides, he had a soul, just not a body. I think he keeps Nagini near by so if something happens, and he loses his body again, he has that bit of soul locked inside of her to revert to. I still think that when he attacked Harry and lost his body, he also lost one bit of his soul, and had to use one he had stored. So, if that's the case, there are only four more bits of Voldemort's soul, that includes the one he's using now.
I always wondered how he came from a spirit to the 'baby like' body he assumed prior to his full re-birth ...
This is why I think perhaps that Nagini was one and the reason Wormtail was milking her to sustain and restore Voldemort was because in essence she was giving him back another part of his soul.
Perhaps he needed more than one part to fully ressurect?

[Fortescue]

It's possible that's how he did it, but I don't understand how, after he attacked Harry and lost his body, if he was not a ghost, how could he sustain whatever was left of him until he found someone to take him to one of his soul bits? He would have had to be a form of spirit - some essence of something in order to not completely disappear or die. Even he said he didn't know what he was.

I think he already had his bit of soul when he was attacked - maybe he always carries one on him just in case. He was growing stronger just using the unicorn blood in PS/SS. I think the unicorn blood and Nagini's venom was just a new type of sick potion to build his strength faster. If he needed a soul bit from Nagini, I'd think he'd have made Quirrell take him to a horcrux instead of to Hogwarts that is, unless he has a horcrux at Hogwarts hidden somewhere. After all, I think he was still attending Hogwarts when he murdered his father and grandparents. Maybe that was how he made his first three horcruxes???? It could lead back to an item stored in the Chamber of Secrets. :rolleyes:

[Sirius Potter Fan]

It's possible that's how he did it, but I don't understand how, after he attacked Harry and lost his body, if he was not a ghost, how could he sustain whatever was left of him until he found someone to take him to one of his soul bits? He would have had to be a form of spirit - some essence of something in order to not completely disappear or die. Even he said he didn't know what he was.

I think he already had his bit of soul when he was attacked - maybe he always carries one on him just in case. He was growing stronger just using the unicorn blood in PS/SS. I think the unicorn blood and Nagini's venom was just a new type of sick potion to build his strength faster. If he needed a soul bit from Nagini, I'd think he'd have made Quirrell take him to a horcrux instead of to Hogwarts that is, unless he has a horcrux at Hogwarts hidden somewhere. After all, I think he was still attending Hogwarts when he murdered his father and grandparents. Maybe that was how he made his first three horcruxes???? It could lead back to an item stored in the Chamber of Secrets. :rolleyes:

I really like the idea of one of the horcruxes being stored in the chamber, I mean it is a good place just because only a very few people would be able to get in there. At the time Voldemort would have hidden it, he would not have known yet of Harry, and certainly would have not known he could speak parsletoung, well because untill Voldemort tried to kill him, he couldn't. Luckily Harry is probably the only other one. . . (did I say luckily?)

Riddle's Father and grandparents were killed before he began to consider the Horcruxes, remember, in the memory (true one) from Slughorn, Riddle was wearing the ring, showing that he had already done the murders of his family. But I really don't think it bothered him much to just go out and find someone to murder when wanted to divide his soul again.

So, has Voldemort used another of is 7? From the sound of it, when Dumbledore was explaining to Harry, I got the impression, that as long as another part of the soul existed outside the body, the orriginal soul would not be destroyed. In otherwords, to die, all of the soul must be destroyed. I don't think Voldemort needs to go to or be near one of his horcruxes if he is killed, he doesn't "use" them in that sense, the fact that it exists is what maintaines his existance. That is why destroying the horcruxes will make him vulnerable, in that his soul will then exist only in his body. I did find it curious though that Voldemort could not "feel" when one of the horcruxes were destroyed, but I guess it is because it had been split and completely removed from his remaining soul.

[Alz]

.... A little help from my dear Nagini' - Voldemort's red eyes fell upon the continually circling snake - 'A potion concocted from unicorn blood and, and the snake venom Nagini provided ... I was soon returned to almost human form, strong enough to travel.

I suppose I liked this part and it stuck in my head - I suppose it can be read in many different ways but the fact it lead his to a physical essence to host the spiritual essence displaced after the night of the attack - I just wondered if indeed Nagini was one and the way he extracted the horcrux was via her venom ...
Just thowing idea's out and all :D

[Fortescue]

It could very well be from Nagini - I guess why else would Dumbledore have decided Nagini as a possible Horcrux? When Harry told him the story from the graveyard maybe that clicked with Dumbledore and it gave him one more answer to the unknown items. He said something to the effect that he surmised Nagini because of how close Voldemort kept her to him, and the fact that he seemed to care/respect her when he does no one or nothing else.

This would raise a question that I know I have asked before - when did Voldemort get Nagini? Was she his pet before he was dispatched by Harry, or did he meet her in the forest when he was just a mist and they sort of hung out together until Wormtail came along?

This also raises the question - if Voldemort originally split his soul into only 7 parts, has he split it even more with the murders he's done since as he has already used 1 bit of soul, and how many times could he do this before his soul could be split no more?

[Sirius Potter Fan]

I think Voldemort only wanted a atotal of 7 copies of of his soul. He said to Slughorn that 7 is a number of power, and as such Dumbledore made the assumption *yes I know what assumptions do* that there was Voldemort, and 6 horcruxes.

I think another support for Nagani being a Horcrux, is that in the MoM when Harry saw through the snakes eyes, was that because Voldemort "possesed" her or that he could see throught her because part of Voldemorts soul was in her as a living being. Of course then we have to consider that perhaps harry may be able to "sense" a horcrux if he comes upon one.

[Alz]

Agreed with SPF - he seemed very interested in 7 - and that was enough for Dumbledore to base his assumptions on it ...

I think Voldemort might have taken Nagini as a 'companion' ... I know this seems contradictory to what Dumbledore said about Riddle wanting to be alone ... but look at it another way - it was something he could communicate with in parselmouth, something he could control because of the Slytherin decendency ... and most of all, it was something that could move, hide and keep concealed very well ...

See more support and wieght I add to this - why would Voldemort keep the horcrux around him - he would prefer them all away in places where they cant be traced - not hanging around him where if is is attacked - so could another horcrux!

I think he keeps her around - he treats her like an equal and more - because she has already helped him - gave him a chance to live in a proper body again ... and she has earned the right to be by his side ... :)