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Boing
19-07-2005, 10:14
When reading Tonky's thread on The Ring, I was thinking, how will Harry know how to destroy the horcruxes when he finds them?

Dumbledore never told him what to do when he found something. Plus, if Slytherin's ring had such a curse put on it, what do you guys think the other ones will have? How is he going to survive this, even with Ron and Hermione?

What does destroy a horcrux? Do you simply have to crack open the object it is in and "let it out"? Or do you have to perform some complex counter magic?

Do you think Harry will ask the portrait of Dumbledore? How else do you think he might be able to find out how to do it?

Nimue
19-07-2005, 10:37
Boing, I have had the same question going over in my mind. How is Harry going to destroy these objects without destroying his own body parts. We can't have Harry losing a hand! :eek:

But I think perhaps an even better quesiton would be: Are there any Horcruxes left? If R.A.B. got to one, whose to say he didn't get to the others as well. Now, obviously he didn't get to Riddle's book, but that doesn't mean he was unable to find any more besides the locket either.

I'm unsure about Hogwarts. Harry seemed pretty bent on not returning. If he doesn't, I think that will be a mistake on his part. I don't think he has all the training he needs. And I think he should visit Dumbledore's painting--it may in fact make him feel less enraged and more focused on the road ahead of him.

Sirius Potter Fan
19-07-2005, 11:14
Actually, I think the hard part is getting through the protections of the Horcrux, once there, "destroying" it may not indeed be that dificult. Harry was not injured when he destroyed the diary.

I can't say whether he will complete his training at Hogwarts,or with the Order. I agree that he needs a lot more training and knowledge, but the best to teach him, are all in the order. Harry will need for one to learn to detect magical concealment the way Dumbledore did in order to locate the remaining Horcruxes. It could very well be that R. A. B. has done the work for him, but i doubt it, but he may have the clues that Harry needs if Dumbledore's pensive doesn't.

psychgirl83
19-07-2005, 12:09
Well the diary was probably the first Horcrux that Voldemort made, so he may not have put as much protection on it as the others since he didn't really know what he was doing yet. Or since he left it in the possesion of one of his "faithful" he didn't feel the need for as many protections. Dumbledore killed his hand trying to destroy the one, how is Harry going to be able to do this better than dumbledore? He's definitely going to be receiving some help, in one way or another, from Dumbly still. What is Dumbledore knowing that Snape was going to have to kill him (not that I believe he is actually dead) left alot of his memories for Harry to use in the Pensieve?

Tonks
19-07-2005, 13:45
Well, I really do think Harry will need at least some form of help from Dumbledore, even if it's like Fawkes or something (oooo special healing powers, we can't forget that!)

Sadly enough, I really do think Harry was lucky to destroy that diary. He acted on a hunch, and used what was available to him at that moment, but didn't exactly have the skill to destroy it.. what he tried just happened to work.. (maybe he should start carrying around Basilisk venom ;))

I have to agree with SPF at least a little though - I think Harry will have the hardest time getting to the Horcrux, what with all the curses and everything that Voldemort would have placed around them. We saw how hard it was for him and Dumbledore to get to the locket, and that even turned out to be a complete bust..

kashlie
19-07-2005, 14:29
Well, I really do think Harry will need at least some form of help from Dumbledore, even if it's like Fawkes or something (oooo special healing powers, we can't forget that!)



The only thing is, Tonks, wouldn't Fawkes have healed Dumbledore if he could?

I think either Dumbledore will tell him how, through the portrait or through memories in the pensieve (how NOT to will be a big one).

Or, Harry will collect them all up (and look kinda funny if there are big things) and destroy all the remaining Horcruxes at the same time. Which will probably cause a cataclysmic explosion...

Tonks
19-07-2005, 14:39
The only thing is, Tonks, wouldn't Fawkes have healed Dumbledore if he could?
Yeah - I thought of that too ;)
I just meant that we know Fawkes's tears have special healing powers and they have worked in the past for Harry, so while they didn't work for Dumbledore because it was such a serious curse, they may be of some use again against maybe a different curse Voldemort used to protect another Horcrux - a curse that causes some injuries that will heal by phoenix tears.. ;)

I have to wonder if Harry can collect them and not have this have a pretty dangerous impact on him. I for one wouldn't want to be carrying around pieces of Voldemort's soul - ;)

Also, as far as Dumbledore's Pensieve goes - how would Harry know what memories to look for and even how to use it. He doesn't know how to get back out of the Pensieve alone once he is inside a memory does he? Maybe the portrait'll tell him - ;)

Alz
19-07-2005, 14:56
I think this is where Harry needs Hermione and Ron the most - especially Hermione ..
I think the protections not just on the horcrux but also on the surrounding area will pose Harry some testing times - and I think his friends will more than help as he tries to find ways around the protections ...
Voldemort is guarding his life here - I would expect some real tests!

DieandDecay
19-07-2005, 16:48
I think the only way Fawkes' tears can heal is if its a physical injury like in the second book with harry's arm.
who is this R.A.B person anyways?
maybe they will have already tracked down the other horcruxes, or perphaps harry will try to track down him/her and ask how they did it?

Sirius Potter Fan
19-07-2005, 17:53
who is this R.A.B person anyways?
maybe they will have already tracked down the other horcruxes, or perphaps harry will try to track down him/her and ask how they did it?there is another thread on R.A.B you can use the quick links to find it.

Alz
20-07-2005, 12:12
Harry isnt all that experienced in the world of magic ... that much is still very clear ...
This makes me wonder if he might take advice - or even travel with a member or two from the order ...
He will need someone - say Mad Eye - who can see the magic inside something - to help he figure out how to physically get his hands on them ...
Harry knows Dumbledore wasnt a fool - and he got pretty badly messed up when he took care of a horcrux - I dont think Harry is experienced enough yet to do this on his own - and he will require an older, more experienced companion to try and figure out how to get beyond the magic ...

Boing
20-07-2005, 19:19
JKR did say in the interview from TLC that we will get to know a member of the Order much better in Book 7 and that we haven't been "properly introduced" to them yet, but that she's really looking forward to it. So, perhaps this person could be someone that follows Harry around or helps him in some way?

Sirius Potter Fan
22-07-2005, 07:55
I guess I missed that interview. . . sounds interesting though. There just seem to be so many loose ends still to tie up for just one book. I think she could spend the whole thing just on how he finds and disables them. . . of course, it doesn't have to be him. . . the thought has occured to me that it will end up being other order members, each looking for a certain one and taking care of them (and like Dumbledore being injured or even killed in the process) I think most likely it will be Lupin who convinces him to go back to school for more training, along with extra training probably from that "other" order member. I just can't see going through 4 different quests for horcruxes, destroying them, and then battling Voldemort, as well as side stories that will shurely be there, and as JKR has said, finishing up by telling what eventually happened to everyone. . .

DieandDecay
22-07-2005, 08:20
thats an idea, but the other order members dont know about the horcruxes..and harry wasn't even willing to tell McGonagall...so I'm not sure if he will get them to help him.

Sirius Potter Fan
22-07-2005, 08:27
thats an idea, but the other order members dont know about the horcruxes..and harry wasn't even willing to tell McGonagall...so I'm not sure if he will get them to help him.

I had thought about that point, but I think he will see that he just can't do it all alone, and ask for some help. otherwise the book might as well be "Harry Potter and Defeating Voldemort" but there will be something else to it, and for that he just won't be albe to do it all himself.