Voldemort know the prophecy?

[Hermione]

Does Voldemort know the prophacy? The Daily Prophet accidently reported the truth about it, but so far it is a well published whisper campaign.

However, we know Snape was acting as a double spy serving in both the Order and the Death Eaters. If Dumbledore told the Order or the staff about the prophacy, Snape would know. Could he have passed the information onto Voldemort?

At the end of HBP, Snape stops Harry from being hurt because he is of use to the Dark Lord. Could this mean Voldemort wants to keep him alive so he can defeat Harry, thus proving he knows the prophacy?

[Fortescue]

Does Voldemort know the prophacy? The Daily Prophet accidently reported the truth about it, but so far it is a well published whisper campaign.

However, we know Snape was acting as a double spy serving in both the Order and the Death Eaters. If Dumbledore told the Order or the staff about the prophacy, Snape would know. Could he have passed the information onto Voldemort?

At the end of HBP, Snape stops Harry from being hurt because he is of use to the Dark Lord. Could this mean Voldemort wants to keep him alive so he can defeat Harry, thus proving he knows the prophacy?

Dumbledore told Harry at the beginning of HBP that the two of them were the only ones who knew the complete prophecy. That was when Dumbledore told Harry that he should tell Ron and Hermione as they were his best friends and he should share it with them, but no one else. I'm sure that Dumbledore was honest with Harry and meant that he had told no one the full extent of the prophecy.

The reports in the Daily Prophet were just a guess considering the Ministry of Magic reported all the damage to the prophecy room after Harry and the others destroyed so many orbs. The reporter probably put 2 and 2 together along with the fact that Harry had survived Voldemort's attack as a child, and was also present at the Ministry when Voldemort made his comeback - it would be a logical conclusion that Harry was indeed "The Chosen One!"

[Piper]

Voldermort already knew that Harry was the chosen one though didn't he? He just wanted to know what the rest of it said.

This one really has me stumped unless they did take Trelawny in the end of HBP, because judging from Harry's reaction when Lucius told him of it, I doubt if Voldermort would suspect that Dumbledore told Harry, and yet he wanted Dumbledore dead in HBP, one who definately knew it. He wouldn't have known that Trelawny remember giving it.

JKR wouldn't answer if Voldermort would ever get to hear the end of it.

I suppose it's possible that Snape just got tired of Voldermort freaking out about it and just made up something and pretended it was the rest of the prophecy. I don't think Dumbledore told Snape. JKR made a big deal of saying that Dumbledore didn't have an equal that he could discuss things with , not even McGonnagal is his equal, he was very lonely.

[Fortescue]

At the end of HBP, Snape stops Harry from being hurt because he is of use to the Dark Lord. Could this mean Voldemort wants to keep him alive so he can defeat Harry, thus proving he knows the prophacy?

Snape stopped the other Death Eaters from killing Harry, not so Voldemort could have at him, but because he really doesn't hate Harry, he just hated his father. If all the animosity that Snape has shown to Harry over the years was true and rational in Snape's mind, he would have done away with Harry himself when he had the chance. After all, he had just killed Dumbledore - what other reason would he have for not killing Harry, making himself look good in his Master's eyes, and killing the son of his school nemesis.

Voldemort doesn't know the entire prophecy - well, unless he does have Trelawney and could somehow pull it out of her, but then, that's another thread! :D

[Alz]

The thing about this is - no matter how close the Prophet was to the truth - no matter in Snape feed back him thoughts - only three (now 5) people knew the truth.
That is what is bugging Voldemort - he needs one of them to tell him exactly the truth.
It matters not if it is important - gives clues to Harry or Voldemort.
Voldemort needs to hear it - he has only been told half of it and he needs to hear it to bring the matter to a close.
In his mind it could be saying anything in the last part - it could go on for hours and hours about the best ways to kill him ... he needs to hear it so he can finally move on!

[Piper]

Snape stopped the other Death Eaters from killing Harry, not so Voldemort could have at him, but because he really doesn't hate Harry, he just hated his father.

I am still not convinced Harry was going to be killed, it was the Crucius Curse being used on Harry, and it was wasting time, they were running for the gates at the time, maybe AK would have been next, maybe not. But there very well could have been orders from Voldermort to leave Harry.

As for whether or not Snape hates Harry, after rereading everything in the first 6 books, I think he really does hate Harry. He started out being a jerk to Harry because of James, and has convinced himself that Harry is this horrible kid that just wants fame and glory and attention.

[Alz]

Just an added thought here - but what if the last part would make sense to Voldemort?
We all read it - some speculate different to others and all - but what if there really is a more sinister meaning to the last part - and if Voldemort heard it he might make more use because he understood it?
I know Dumbledore said the prophecy only mattered because Voldemort made it so - he was the one that set it in motion - it is possible in fact that the prophecy was more about Voldemort than what it was Harry - just Harry was involved?
Does that make any sense? :confused:

[Fortescue]

Just an added thought here - but what if the last part would make sense to Voldemort?
We all read it - some speculate different to others and all - but what if there really is a more sinister meaning to the last part - and if Voldemort heard it he might make more use because he understood it?
I know Dumbledore said the prophecy only mattered because Voldemort made it so - he was the one that set it in motion - it is possible in fact that the prophecy was more about Voldemort than what it was Harry - just Harry was involved?
Does that make any sense? :confused:

Actually, I think the prophecy is clearly more about Harry. Voldemort might take it in an egotistical way to be more about him, but I think if he learned the entire thing, it wouldn't make him hunt Harry any harder then he already is - but Voldemort would probably be a little more ticked off with Snape for not killing Harry when he had the chance and getting it over with.

[Alz]

As Dumbledore said - Voldemort in fact made the prophecy some true - it didnt have to happen - Voldemort made it happen ... this of course turns my mind slightly DiE :evil1:

But on topic - think about that for a second - the prophecy is only important because Voldemort made it so - this is why I just wonder if it makes more sense to him than Harry - more laterally applies to him rather than Harry - because he set it in motion.
There is no denying that parts are very close to Harry - but remember Neville so could have easily filled those shoes - once again Voldemort made the choice and dictated the application of the prophecy .. that is why I feel it is more him than anyone ... and perhaps that is why he was denied the ending of the prophecy so long - the whole 'neither can live ...' still seemes to me to hold more than the complex face value ...

[Pip]

What if Voldemort has found out from Snape (if he is evil) that it was Professor Trewlaney that made the prediction, as he was there on the night she made the Prophecy?

Voldemort may want to try and find Sybill to hear the rest of the prophecy...

[Alz]

If Snape was on Voldemort's side - clearly - then he would have told Voldemort about Sybill a long time ago.
If Dumbledore is right - only he and Harry know the prophecy.
As such - the Dark Lord wants the details very much - if Snape could have provided him the person rather than the prophecy and was still in service of Voldemort - I am sure he would have told him straight away.
Bear in mind Snape was the eavesdropper - as such he did tell Voldemort the part he heard and he was also aware of who was in that room - he told Voldemort about the prophecy but I dont think he shared the source.