RAB news

[gumshoe]

Guys, check out the Lexicon. A "well-placed source" confirms that he is Regulus Arcturus Black. I'm putting this in HBP Opinions because I don't know what else to do with it, and heck, it'll sure generate a lot of opinions now, won't it?

It's in Which Wizard, look up Regulus Black.

gumshoe

[Sirius Potter Fan]

Well, I suppose alot of things just depend on just how "well placed" and reliable the source is. I think the majority believe it is Regulus in any event.

Arcturus is the name of the fourth brightest star, and as Sirius is the brightest. Regulus is the 25th brightest, so. . . the name would fit with JKR's use of stelar names for the brothers. Do we know Sirius' middle name? I don't think we do, curious.

[Piper]

If this is true, I am going to be a little peeved at JKR for not just telling us that in the book, or giving us the information in the interview that she did with the LC and Mugglenet.

I'm new at all of this and really don't know how reliable lexicon is, so I guess we just wait and see if she makes any comment on it publicly.

AH they have a disclaimer: The Lexicon has received information that may reveal the identity of someone mentioned at the end of HBP via initials. (For the unspoiled, we'll refrain from posting them.) It should be noted that this, while it comes from a reliable source, is still rumor until confirmed or denied by Jo & Co. It is, however, strong enough of a rumor to bring to your attention.


Still, they sound pretty sure! Nice work!

[halliemei]

Interesting information about Sirius (the star, not the character) and Arcturus (same).

The stars making up the belt of Orion (Alnitak, Anilam, Mintaka) point to Sirius (the dog-star -- yeah, you knew that). The ancient Egyptians had a lot of mythology around the god Ra and Osiris (for which Sirius is named). It has to do with the location of the afterlife. The pyramids were built with chambers (for lack of a better word) that led upwards from the tombs to the top of the pyramid and pointed to the belt, where the soul of the Pharoh would be directed to Osiris (I have tons of information on Osiris/Sirius, if anyone is interested). The Great Pyramids of Giza are even aligned like the belt of Orion. So, we have the belt of Orion (the great warrior, with Bellatrix on his left shoulder) pointing to Sirius.

Have you ever heard the phrase "arc to arcturus"? Well, this is a way to find the star Arcturus (and later Spica in Virgo). The arc (plough) in the Big Dipper arcs around to help you find Arcturus. There is some legend (best link here: http://www.crystalinks.com/arcturus.html) around who Arcturus is, but the Big Dipper also points (the mouth of it) to Polaris -- the current North Star (because of precession). One possible interesting legend is Another title was Audiens, which seems unintelligible unless the word be a misprint for Audens, the "Bold One". And Arcturus is visible in the Northern Hemisphere year-round.

As a point of information, Draco separates the big and little dippers. (oh, and there is a small nebula in Draco that is bluish-green). Arcturus appears like it's wearing an Orange robe.
*edited to add*
I knew there was more. Here's what The Great Atlas of the Stars says about Arcturus.

It is distinguished by its beautiful yellow-orangy glow, and is the brightest star in the northern hemisphere (break in quote to state that Regulus and Sirius are technically in the southern hemisphere). When seen with the naked eye or through binoculars, Arcturus appears to be wearing a beautiful orange robe. This star is actually so bright that it can be observed through a telescope even in broad daylight.
It's not only visible year-round by all day and night in the Northern Hemisphere.

[Alz]

The Lexicon has a good reputation - but still you have to doubt any rumour until JKR herself comes out and says it ...
As point out above, Arcturus is another star - perhaps someone saw that and given what we know of the Black families constellation naming - made a connection.
I'm not 100% but I have never heard that name in any of the books ...
I suppose it seals more what most people have come to believe that Regulus is RAB - I don't know, it still seems too simple for JKR ... but as someone said before - it might just be a 'gimmie' clue for the younger readers ..

[Snuffles]

...suppose it seals more what most people have come to believe that Regulus is RAB - I don't know, it still seems too simple for JKR ...

I got the same feeling here. Even though the name would work nicely, it's just way too simple for JKR. I think somebody found out about the star Arctrus, and rumored that it is the middle name of Regulus Black. I'm keeping getting the hunch that RAB would be somebody we don't know already.

[Hermione]

Here's a thought, Sirus said that Regulous died as Voldemort was rising to power. We assume that would be either when the Horucruxs were being made or slightly after. So if it was him, he would have an oppurtunity.

Secondly, though I doubt it is her, it could be Bellatrix Lastrange. Remember, she used to be a Black, so her madien name would have been Bellatrix Black. I can't see her ever wanting to defeat the Dark Lord, unless there is a power hungery side to her we haven't seen.

[saxpirate]

Secondly, though I doubt it is her, it could be Bellatrix Lastrange. Remember, she used to be a Black, so her madien name would have been Bellatrix Black. I can't see her ever wanting to defeat the Dark Lord, unless there is a power hungery side to her we haven't seen.
Isn't it RAB though? Anyways, the Lexicon news is interesting. I agree with Alz, I think it is too simple for JKR. I think she made it RAB just to get us all thinking about Regulus, so she could have us all thinking it was Regulus. Was Regulus' middle name or initial ever mentioned in the books.. I don't recall it ever being mentioned but I'm not 100% sure.

[Sir]

Isn't it RAB though? Anyways, the Lexicon news is interesting. I agree with Alz, I think it is too simple for JKR. I think she made it RAB just to get us all thinking about Regulus, so she could have us all thinking it was Regulus. Was Regulus' middle name or initial ever mentioned in the books.. I don't recall it ever being mentioned but I'm not 100% sure.
I just did a text search on my eBook copies of books 1-5 and I didn't find his middle name or even a middle initial mentioned anywhere. I highly doubt it would have been mentioned in HBP otherwise someone surely would have found that by now with it being fresh on everyone's memory.

[Sirius Potter Fan]

I just did a text search on my eBook copies of books 1-5

Now that's handy! I don't know how many times I wished I could search for a certain word or name in the books! It will make for some really interesting observations I think! Be a while before I can afford them though.:(

I really don't think there realy is a way for anyone to "know" who it is at this point, not for certain anyway. As far as Regulus being R.A.B. being too "simple" for JKR, I don't think so. She has made some difficult and tricky puzzles to intrigue us. . . mature fans. but her primary audience is still the not quite as crafty younger crowd, and she may want to give them something that they can figure out as well on their own. I'm still sticking with Regulus, as I believe it is one person who wrote the note (not that that person was alone) and there have been no other's mentioned that come close to the initials. :)

[Alz]

I just have this feeling that RAB is going to be an acronym a bit like HBP, Voldemort etc - I just feel that while SPF has a point - it is somewhat hidden - the fact only one real name seems to fit the bill could be somewhat misleading.
If we had a few possible's - I could see it - but with one person that seems to fulfil at least the R and B side of it - just seems a little weak.
Sure, it could be a gimmie from JKR - but where can it lead - we know Regulus was killed and pretty much have his back story - just seems it is a dead end.

[Sir]

Agreed - I also think if it would have been something that obvious they might have picked up on it at the end of HBP. Surely Hermione would have remembered something as simple as Regulus Black - It would almost be an insult to her from JKR if she didn't.

[mugglelover]

im not sure i mean look at how easy it would be if this was indeed the it couldn't be more obvious if it jumped out of the shower naked sinning happy birthday to alot of us. But it never mentions the middle name ........ then again I am almost positive that in OOTP when they are cleaning "The Most Noble and Ancient House Of Black" that they come across a necklace which could possibly be a horcrux. Well thats my theory anyway and I'm sticking to it.

[Ana C.B.Rodrigues]

Well I don't know much of the sites cause I had one of my own but had a problem when I was updating it with the OotP new clues, Characters and background I erased it by mistake... so now.. I've been checking somewhere to talk about HP.

well what really matters is that I don't really believe this thing.. JKRowling's site is connected to Lexicon and she would take an action if she found out she was actually being spyed... unless they saw the family tree she donated for charity... I'l try to see the Images I have of it to see if I can read something...

[Ana C.B.Rodrigues]

Well there's no way I can see Regulus Full Name on the images I got... it's covered by other authors work... anyway.. I'm trying ti figure out if I find the full tree to complet mine ...and it would be a clue anyway to prove the Identity of R.A.B.

[Vold. E. Mort]

As I recall, there was indeed a locket found in the Black house, and none of the kids could manage to open it.. And, if I'm not mistaken, a certain house elf with a dark side got it out of the garbage they were throwing out and stashed it in his personal quarters. That would be the same house elf that told Harry that Sirius was gone, and caused Harry to go rushing head first into the trap at the MoM..

Now, would a servant of Voldemort recognize a Horcrux when they saw it? I'm torn on that. Clearly Lucius knew what the diary contained, but I don't think he realized what it meant in the grand scheme of things to Voldemnort. It wasn't just a prank waiting to happen, it was a way back and he sqandered it trying to smoke some mudbloods.. However, house elves seem to be "next level" kinda critters, that know a lot more than humans about this magic business. If any character that has shown any sign of a dark side so far would recognize one of Voldemort's horcruxes, it would be Kreatcher.

So, considering the fact that one of Voldemort's horcruxes was found inside the house of Black, I'm going to go with the obvious and say without hesitation, RAB is indeed Regulus A. Black. What the "A." stands for, I cannot say with any certainty, but the logic shown above is beautiful.

[Ana C.B.Rodrigues]

Anyway Kreacher doesn't seem to be clever so I don't believe he would keep the locket in oorder to give it bact to voldemort
I think it's a way to make Harry Back to Grimmauld Place... and also a way of keeping the locket away from Voldemort... and to know much more about the Black Family.

[Alz]

Actually I wasnt so interested if Kreacher could have taken it - I think it might have been Dung!
Think about it - he was taking things from the Black house - I wonder if he came across the locket while looking for goodies ... has given it away?
Always seemed a bit wierd to me why JKR wrote that scene in HBP - why would she have Dung selling Black heirlooms in Hogsmeade?
Thing is - that doesnt help with identifying it as a possible horcrux ... unless Ginny remembers it - Harry goes to find it - see's it is gone and then quizzes Dung ...
That does seem a long winded way of doing things!
Might also suggest that either that Horcrux has been de-activated or isnt protected in the same way .. it can be touched because I am sure Ginny did touch it .. or picked up the box it was in ...????

[Vold. E. Mort]

Many people touched the Diary without a problem, as well..

[halliemei]

Again, I think we're stuck b/c we don't really know HOW horcruxes work. My guess is that the protections around the ring are what hurt DD.

[Alz]

Many people touched the Diary without a problem, as well..
The diary was a unique case - as said and wondered about so much, it was a horcrux but also a weapon ... it was suppose to be hidden but also Riddle wanted it found so he could take over that person ... the diary acts in a very wierd fashion - a definate contradiction to itself ...
I begin to think if JKR had to create the contradiction in order to declare it a horcrux .. I mean she wants to show these horcruxes are protected and not easy to get - yet she had already written that the diary had passed between many hands ...
That is of course not giving JKR the credit she deserves ... but still in essence the Diary wasnt a typical horcrux ... maybe an indication that others wont be straight forward ...

[Tom the Bar Man]

How about this, we all know that Regulas wasn't all that bright. He learned from his mistakes and tried to run but of course Voldy caught and killed him. That's the part we know. [banning of course that the order has hidden him like DD offered Draco.] Assuming RAB is Regulus, couldn't have Voldy, pursuing him already, caught Reg in the act? The fake locket and note would have had to be premeditated by Reg, and Voldy might have just seen this as a new protection, Killed Reg and made the "fake" a real Horcrux. He then would have put Slytherins locket [still a Horcrux] in a new safe location. That would knock out one of the other seven Horcrux's, and since DD was so sure that Voldy couldn't get a Gryffindor artifact, that would reduce Harry's task.

[Alz]

There are multiple parts to that which don't seem right - I still think much of this hinges on exactly how did RAB find out about the Horcrux?
I think Voldemort - if aware - would have done many different things post this shock discovery that someone was aware of his horcruxes - he certainly wouldn't have had the person killed for fear of who else they told ... that is my main thinking behind Voldemort knowing ... and then of course their is the note itself - which almost mocks Voldemort .. he wouldn't ridicule himself even if it was a ruse ...