The Goblet - magical, mystical or something else?

[Tinkerbell]

Looking through some of my notes from re-reading GoF, I came across this quote:

"Dumbledore reached inside it, and pulled out a large, roughly hewn wooden cup."

I can't help but think of the similarity between the description of the Goblet and that of the goblet that Jesus Christ was said to have drunk out of at the Last Supper - this was supposed to be a roughly shaped wooden cup, made by a carpenter, such as he was.

Any thoughts or ideas as to whether this link is just a coincidence, Tink being dense, or JKR being clever ... again!?

[Alz]

It is a nice 'tie in' for all that glitters isn't gold - or in this case don't let the fact it is a wooden cup deceive you to the magic and power ...
I have never really thought too much about it really, I am not a bible person so cant comment on that part - sorry :o

[DieandDecay]

hmm...well i've been brought up in a religious family and yes Jesus drank out of a wooden cup...only because that was what everyone drank out of at the time..well the lower-class ppl anyways. Anyways, thats an interesting thoght but I don't think the wooden goblet bears any signifance.

[Brycen05]

Truthfully, I don't think the Goblet has any of that type of significance. Especially since the bible is completely no-magic no-witchcraft with no real margin for misconception. Though, I was thinking that it could have benn something that the vikings used or something.

[DieandDecay]

there's always a possibility that its related to something, but personally I don't think so just because there isn't much point. why make some big significant meaning for a cup that is rarely mentioned?

[Tinkerbell]

It was less of the magical significance, but more as Blaise has pointed out about all that glitters, that I was getting at.

If you have seen the Indiana Jones movie about the holy grail, it is where there is a ledge with numerous 'goblets' set out, one of which is the goblet from which Jesus drank at the Last Supper - when choosing the correct goblet, it is the humble wooden cup, rather than the lavishly made golden and jewel encrusted goblet that is the true grail.

So I am saying that the Goblet of Fire is also something that is very humble looking but appears to have mystical qualities within it, as, perhaps, was the holy grail.

[Nagini]

Looking through some of my notes from re-reading GoF, I came across this quote:

"Dumbledore reached inside it, and pulled out a large, roughly hewn wooden cup."

I can't help but think of the similarity between the description of the Goblet and that of the goblet that Jesus Christ was said to have drunk out of at the Last Supper - this was supposed to be a roughly shaped wooden cup, made by a carpenter, such as he was.

Any thoughts or ideas as to whether this link is just a coincidence, Tink being dense, or JKR being clever ... again!?

Dont laugh, but I watch a lot of Time Team/Ancient Egypt and all that kind of Discovery Channel stuff. When I read the description of the goblet for the first time, it struck me that perhaps it was an ancient magical goblet that has been possessed with the powers it has and kept within the wizarding world for centuries.

I thought it might have been made wooden on purpose to stop muggles from stealing it because there was other kinds of material around to have made it out of - depending on how old it is of course. :)

[Alz]

Actually I really like your last comment - it was constructed out of a material that wouldn't have made is desirable - it may be a magical device but it wasn't something anyone would chance to steal.
If it was gold ect - magical - then the people willing to chance for it would increase.
So yah - like it Gini :D

[Haley's Comet]

Out of all the Harry Potter books so far, my favorite is 'The Goblet Of Fire'.
Yes, the Indiana Jones movie about the holy grail certainly does come to mind.


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