The end of Greyback?

[Alz]

It has often been said that the silver hand Pettigrew got from Voldemort spelled the end of Lupin - warewolf and silver hand ... silver and warewolves.
But then - HBP came along and we have a really disgusting Warewolf - hello Greyback ...
What if - Wormtails debt is paid by killing Fenir Greyback with his silver hand?
You know that Harry and Greyback will meet again - we know that Greyback is a nasty SOB - so maybe he comes back with Lupin's body - and then sets about Harry ... Wormtails seizes his chance to repay his life debt - and thus silver hand and warewolf does become important?

Thoughts?

[kashlie]

it is the romantic choice...but extremely possible.
The speculation that Greyback would never turn on Voldemort makes him a prime target for the redeeming moment of Wormtail.
i could see Greyback attacking Wormtail though - Voldemort wouldn't care, because Wormtail is weak.
I have trouble imagining Wormtail stepping in front of Greyback to save Harry though (unless the life debt has magic abilities to force this to happen?)

[Alz]

Wormtail owes this debt and it wasnt placed on him by JKR never to be re-paid.
As I said, this came from the populat notion that Wormtail got his silver hand in order to kill a warewolf - many of us assumed the worsed and thought Lupin but now - with Greyback - you can see a more fitting way for it to be used.
It may seem romantic - but also isnt it poetic that the hand Voldemort crafted Wormtail kills off one of his allies as well as exposing another allie who turned on his friends - now turns on Voldemort!

[Vestral]

I read up on werewolf legend/folklore, and the story goes that there are two kinds of werewolfs... alpha and beta.

Alphas I think are those that are born werewolves, are turned into werewolves by a curse, or some other way OTHER than being bitten by another werewolf.

I can't remember all the details about the alpha, but I know that betas are those that are bitten by alphas, or other betas.

The interesting thing I found was the legend that says that, IF a beta has not tasted human blood, then he can reverse the curse of the werewolf by killing the alpha werewolf. This means that even if he was bitten by a beta, he must find the original alpha that started it all.

My theory is that Bill and Remus will kill Greyback and cure themselves.
To my knowledge, Remus has never attacked a human while in wolf form.
He is a beta, and Greyback is his alpha wolf... and Bill's too.
I also think that all the other betas from the original alpha will be cured as well... so long as they have not tasted human blood... otherwise the curse will remain on them.

[Alz]

Wow- interesting data there!
I have never heard that before and is pretty good information!
There was a reason that JKR had Lupin back with Greyback and now with Bill contaminated as well - I can totally see what you are saying!

I suppose it was a romantic thought that made me think the silver hand of Wormtail may make restitution to Lupin - a friend also that he betrayed - by sinking it deep into that werewolf and prolly dying in the process...

[kaz]

Wow. Vestral, that is really good! I really like that theory and I completely agree! \

And Alz, I like that too, like killing 2 birds with one stone, he saves Harry from Greyback paying off his debt to Harry and also frees Lupin from the curse- though, I don't see Lupin forgiving Wormtail anytime soon. I really don't think Wormtail would know that he was saving Lupin, he is a wimp who thinks about making his life easier and gaining for himself- and he is aware of his debt to Harry but thinks he owes Lupin nothing for his betrayal as he has his master by his side.

[Alz]

I suppose I drift back to a point I made elsewhere - Wormtail is looking at his life now - a house slave to Snape - all he had done - all he gave up for Voldemort and he is reduced to hiding in Snapes house getting drinks for guests.
I think he will have a defining moment and realise he also has a choice - and perhaps he is willing to lay his life down in the hope he can salvage a little something from he friend/fellow marauder and also do the right thing for once in his life and save Harry's life in repayment for causing Harry's parents death.
We say that Greyback is ruthless and I just have this vision playing in my head - the drama of the situation, would make powerful material - Pettigrew dies but in his last actions tried to make small payment back to the ones he betrayed.