Horcrux theory

[hprocksmysocks]

Hey I was thinking about something that I read on one of the Hp sites about re-reading the books to find horcruxs and I think that perhaps because there are 7 books there is a horcrux in each one. Voldermort is the one that we will meet in either the last book face to face or he was the one we met in the 1st book. Then the 2nd book was the diary and Nagini in the 4th book, the locket in the 5th book and the ring in the 6th book. what would the ones be in the 3rd book the 7th book or the 1st book?

[Sirius-fan-forever]

Wow that's actually kind of interesting. But according to dumbledore's guesses (which are probably accurate), one of them has to be something belonging to ravenclaw or hufflepuff (like the cup). I can't think of where we would have seen those, but it may not be those things. In that case, it would be very interesting to read the books over again inorder to search for the hidden horcruxes!! :)

[Vold. E. Mort]

1 - Voldemort himself, because the living person must maintain a portion of the soul. (All the books)
2 - The Griffindor sword, for the simple fact that is the only Griffindor relic we've seen, Riddle would have given anything to use it and Tom Riddle seemed to be rather terrified when he saw it.. (Book 1)
3 - The diary of Tom Riddle. (Book 2)
4 - The locket, and I don't mean the one from the cave. I mean the one from OotP, that they find while cleaning the House of Black.. "a heavy locket, that no one could open" R.A.B. stole the locket from the cave and logic dictates it could end up in his house. (Book 5)
5 - The Cup he killed the old broad to get (Book 6)
6 - The Ring of Slytherin (Book 6)
7 - Harry, arguable, but I think he'll end up being the final one. (All the books)

I'm not convinced he would use Nagini. A mortal creature to store the most precious thing Voldemort owned? Come now... Snakes of that size are indeed long lived, but they're not immortal. If anything, he would have used the Basalisk... I think Nagini is just a minion, maybe even an animagus or someone Voldemort has transmogrified into a snake. All his other horcruxes are inanimate objects witht the exception of Harry whom I don't think he intended to make into a Horcrux. Why a creature that could easily have been killed? I mean, Harry took out the Basalisk. Do you really think a mere snake is going to pose much threat?

[Alz]

It's an interesting premise isnt it?
I can see the relevance as well ... I mean you are right - CoS saw the destruction of the diary - HBP the destruction of the ring - heavily rumoured necklace in OoTP - someone suggested the mirror of erised (Raven feet??) which might mean PS/SS - last book has to be The Final Horcrux (no trademarking needed ;) ) ergo Voldemort - so maybe PoA was all about the past - Harry - which just leaves 4 - which was Voldemort's re-birthing ...
Well my combined thoughts on that one :p

[gumshoe]

After reading HBP, my husband and I actually tried to work this very thing out! It does seem like it'd make sense, but some things didn't hang together for me. (All that follows is my opinion, of course.)

First, we get the cup and the ring both in this book.
Second, I don't think Nagini is a Horcrux.
Third, I think the Sorting Hat should be considered as an item of Griffindor's.

Based on that , we'd have the following, in book order:
PS/SS: (Possibly) Harry, Sorting Hat (?), perhaps Ravenclaw's wand (the wand in Ollivander's on the pillow)
CoS: Diary
PoA: x
GoF: x
OoP: Locket
HBP: Ring, Cup, tiara (?)

I think we actually do have another Hufflepuff item to consider: the portrait of the Fat Lady, whom I'm almost certain is Hepzibah Smith.

Another interesting spin (although I like this and don't mean to discourage this train of thought) would be if she put all the Horcruxes in this last book.

Yet another spin is the possibility that she put items in the earlier books that would be reminiscent or symbolic of the Horcruxes, such as (for example) the snake at the zoo (if Nagini is in fact a Horcrux), or the Triwizard cup (to hint at Hufflepuff's cup).

I do think there must be some connective pattern.

[IntheOrder]

This is a good idea. Let's not forget that Dumbledore said that he had gotten rid of one of them already. So two had been destroyed, one is Voldemort himself. So there are three left.

[kashlie]

I have the strangest feeling that something of Hufflepuff's was mentioned...we know of Hufflepuff's ghost, and he would likely be the only one who would know the whereabouts of any Hufflepuff relics inside the school. It could be an original trophy - perhaps the one for services to the school? The very thing with Tom Riddles name upon it. And what better reason for Harry to return to Hogwarts than the discovery that there is a Horcrux there?

I really like this idea, and will keep an eye out for anything that Voldemort may have used!

[The Frozen North]

Why does everyone keep saying that Voldermort is a Horcrux, I'm certainly not one. Yes a piece of the soul lives on in the body but when one has split one's soul once, it is posible to make one horcrux, not two. If we are saying that one horcrux now resides in Voldermort's body as it was required for his regeneration, we are then back onto the "used verses exists" argument which has never been resolved. Personally I am of the "exists" school of beleif and therefor in no possible scenario could Voldermort's body be a horcrux. If we are counting horcruxes, lets not get confused about how many we are looking for!!!!

[Alz]

Umm - I think Dumbledore even said it - the final piece of soul always resides in the person - as such I suppose you could call him the final horcrux - but I can see why you are taking issue ...
Basically the horcruxes are keeping that piece of soul inside him alive - if you remove the horcruxes the last piece is now fair game ...
And the exist versus use - I am still not convinced on exist - I still felt that piece in him is in fact a piece from re-generation but learned I was kinda in a very small minority!
So yah - I can see your objection to the naming of it - but it is still his final piece of soul - the piece the horcruxes protect ...

[kashlie]

Voldemort was a piece of soul when he was ripped from his body, because of the others exisiting, therefore he was already a Horcrux inside that baby-like body.. Had all the other Horcruxes been destroyed before he attacked Harry, then that last piece in Voldemort is considered 'whole' and he would have died. Whether the Horcruxes are used or exist doesn't really matter (except for the fact he would then basically only have 7 lives, and that isn't really immortal, if they are indeed used).
Because he is the 7th Horcrux, technically. He split his soul into seven pieces, but left the 7th within himself.

[IntheOrder]

Voldemort IS a horcrux-- in the sense that he has some of his soul. So there are six beside him. And Dumbledore got rid of one (why his hand was black). The locket is another, as is the diary. So there are three that have yet to be discovered.

[The Frozen North]

Because he is the 7th Horcrux, technically. He split his soul into seven pieces, but left the 7th within himself.

Didn't DD say that he thought Voldermort was trying to make 7 horcruxes? If so then surely his soul was split into 8:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Alz]

See this is almost a thread in itself - both point made my Kasher and TFN are correct - he wanted a 7 piece soul - not sure that constituted 7 horcruxes or just 7 pieces of his soul - but the one piece inside him must always exist because that is the piece that all the horcruxes protect ...
If all the horcruxes are destroyed the piece of soul in Voldemort becomes mortal and killable - thus Harry must destroy the horcruxes before killing Voldemort.
So - debate on - is there 7 plus one which would make 8 - not magical - or was Dumbledore right and he just wanted a 7 part soul - thus split in 7 but only 6 placed in objects?
I can see the point that Voldemort isnt technically a horcrux - because he didnt kill anyone to seal it in himself - it already existed and was this that was ripped and made into horcruxes - technically Voldemort isnt a Horcrux - he is just the final soul piece of Voldemort!

[Jenelle]

oh i couldnt resist (no i dont buy it but still)Maybe lv killed his mom when he was born...i know i know but i'm just playing devils advocate here. that wold make him a horcrux if he could do the spell that long after. but personally...
vodemort
ring
cup
locket
trophy
tiara
something of the kids' from the orphange