Ron's wand?

[kausarqadir]

Olivander's famous line... wand chooses a wizard.
then y do we see Ron using Percy's old wand........
and if i am not mistaken, harry in OoTP asked Umbridge to give him her wand.
we also see, that in Olivander, not every wand worked for Harry well.
but on the other hand, we sometimes observe that they use other wands too, at the time of need.
any comment

[Boing]

Well, in Ron's case, it is just a matter of having enough money. I'm sure wands are fairly expensive and if you can get away with not buying one, the Weasleys would have done it. The thing about when Harry tried the wands in Ollivander's shop is that he didn't have any idea of magic and what spells he would even use - no idea of how to direct his magical energy through the wand. He basically just waved them around and the ones that Ollivander discarded were those that didn't really react well to Harry - went crazy or didn't respond well in some way.

So, Ron using Percy's wand or someone using another wizard's wand (like Pettigrew using Voldemort's wand), is fine as long as they know what they are doing. The spell might not be as powerful or as clear as it could be, but it will work okay.

[Hermione]

Ron has to use Percy's old wand due to financial issues. When the Weasleys win the money, then Ron gets a new wand.

I would think Percy's wand would be the worst one that Ron could have had. If the wand choses the wizard than wizards of similar personalities should get similar wands. He is least like Percy and more like any of the others. I think he would do better with Bill or Charlie's old wands rather than Percy's.

Yes, if needed in an emergency, another wizard's wand will work ok, but better to use your own.

[Alz]

I think for a witch or wizard to get the best out of magic they have to use the wand that is right - that isnt to say a qualified wizard/witch has to only use his/her own wand - they just achieve better results if they do.
I always look at the wand and a director to the internal magic of a person - like a channel - as such is a person doesnt have any they are a squib and cant do magic.

I think Ron would be disadvantaged not to have his own choice - but if he can master magic using it - he will only make for a better wizard when he does get his own wand!

[kausarqadir]

Draco Malfoy said to HP.... at Madam Malkin's robes shop
"My father's next door buying my books and mother's up the street looking at wands...."
Now where will you put this one?

[Weasleyfanforever]

I think that is a very interesting quote, and it could be looked at a few ways:

1. Mrs. Malfoy was letting Ollivander know that Draco was coming, and perhaps buying her own wand serving products.

2. Mrs. Malfoy was actually picking out Draco's wand (which leads to many interesting questions)

3. She was picking out her own wand. Perhaps hers was broken or lost...

[Boing]

See, I always took that quote to mean that she was just looking at them - not purchasing. It does just say she's looking. Perhaps she has something in mind for Draco and wants to pull a few off the shelf for him to try out. There might be a certain wood or core that is prominent in the family or that is particularly useful for certain spells and she wanted to make sure he tried one out.

[Weasleyfanforever]

I like your thoughts Boing. I was under the impression that only Ollivander could make a guess at what wands might appeal to certain people, but obviously there are other wand shops, so that can't be. Perhaps she has an affinity foor wands and could know which ones might work better with Draco. I wonder, is there any further education to become a wandsmith ( a new word I ave just invented :D )? Maybe Narcissa studied these things before she met and married Lucius.....

[kausarqadir]

Perhaps she has an affinity foor wands and could know which ones might work better with Draco. I wonder, is there any further education to become a wandsmith ( a new word I ave just invented :D )? Maybe Narcissa studied these things before she met and married Lucius.....

Interesting..... WFF i like it. ;)

yes, that could be. but i think its big guessing. like draco doing for sorting.
WHOLE FAMILY'S BEEN IN IT.... but still, then i think Ollivander's much experienced and expert on it. y couldnt he do the guessing for Harry and let him try out many.
i dont think guessing will have to do.
next, where Harry is concerned he said, he still remember his mother buying her first wand. Now, if his memory is so good, which is mentioned quite a few times in PS/SS as well as GoF, then dont you think he would have remembered what core normally go for the family. then y did he try for HP? and Y for so many wands?

[Alz]

See I look at that quote and just think that Mrs Malfoy was just browsing for wands - not on the express chore of getting Draco his first wand - in fact i am inclind to wonder if indeed he didnt have his wand before going there anyways - not like Dad was an avid follower of the rules and all!
I think there is no side route here - she was up the street looking at wands!

[Boing]

next, where Harry is concerned he said, he still remember his mother buying her first wand. Now, if his memory is so good, which is mentioned quite a few times in PS/SS as well as GoF, then dont you think he would have remembered what core normally go for the family. then y did he try for HP? and Y for so many wands?

I don't think everyone in the same family has the same wand core. I know I just said up above that perhaps Narcissa had a core that she preferred or that was particularly adept at some Dark magic, but I don't think that everyone in a family would have the same core . . .

It is like a personality. Someone can be from the same family and not have the exact same temperament as everyone else in the family. They are individuals and as such, have unique needs and talents and require different wands.

That being said, there could be some similarities (:D), so what if those first few wands that Ollivander had Harry try out were with cores that his father or mother had in theirs?

[kausarqadir]

i didnt know or rather say, havent noticed that one? i will check that.

[Alz]

I just wanna steer this back on-topic if possible?
Olivander's famous line... wand chooses a wizard.
then y do we see Ron using Percy's old wand........
and if i am not mistaken, harry in OoTP asked Umbridge to give him her wand.
we also see, that in Olivander, not every wand worked for Harry well.
but on the other hand, we sometimes observe that they use other wands too, at the time of need.
any comment
I think I said earlier that wizards can use other wands - they just dont get the best out of them ... but looking at Boingy's point - what if the familily share a similar style wand - in this case then the Weasleys could easily inter-change wands?
I think it is plausible that a family link resides in the choice of wands - because I also know how important Molly and Arthur see their childrens education and are willing to go without to make sure they get what they need - as such if Ron really was at a disadvantage - I am sure they would pay out for a new one