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Old 19-08-2006, 00:47   #31
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Re: Rowling to kill two in final Potter book

Im just going to list the names of the possibily doomed characters. I think Wormtail is a definate, but I don't classify him as a main character. Snape I believe will die,but not before confessing his good intentions!! I don't think Malfoy will die,but I think Ron will thump him good. I agree with ALZ on the fact that "the book started with sacrifice and will end in sacrafice" That's exactly how Jk writes in that cycling process, just like the bird in the jar, hatching and dying over and over. Hagrid reminds me of Chewbacca. And in the Star Wars books Chewy goes the way of the Buffalo by saving Han Solo's kids. I think Hagrid will meet his end in a gloriuos battle like Chewy did. I don't think any of the Weaslys die. Hopefully. I want Arthur to be Minister of Magic. I don't think HP dies, but this thought crosses my mind quite a bit. In the Mirror of Erised Ron see's himself with the house cup and all that jazz. That pretty much came true in HBP. HP saw himself with his parents and about ten other members of his family. For that to come true he has to die to join them. Foreshadowing is another one of JK's tricks. Oh and Sirius is still alive.
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Old 20-08-2006, 08:52   #32
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Re: Rowling to kill two in final Potter book

I like your thinking SnapeLovesLily
That last part, not even I made that connection but seems right doesn't it - in order for Harry to be with his family - he has to die - not least because JKR said we will never see an alive Lily and James. Harry does not fear death - all these people who died in his short lifetime has gone to show Harry that when the time is right, you can help others and be honourable - then death really is nothing to fear and the next great adventure. I think a deceased Harry will really end the books, will regain parity on a freak event that transpired 15 years before - cyclic and all, he should have died that night - instead he lived - now it is time to finish the job, finally kill Voldemort and join his family ... the end!
A tragic hero is always better than 'lived happily ever after' - too Disney!
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Old 20-08-2006, 10:35   #33
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I like your thinking SnapeLovesLily
That last part, not even I made that connection but seems right doesn't it - in order for Harry to be with his family - he has to die - not least because JKR said we will never see an alive Lily and James. Harry does not fear death - all these people who died in his short lifetime has gone to show Harry that when the time is right, you can help others and be honourable - then death really is nothing to fear and the next great adventure. I think a deceased Harry will really end the books, will regain parity on a freak event that transpired 15 years before - cyclic and all, he should have died that night - instead he lived - now it is time to finish the job, finally kill Voldemort and join his family ... the end!
A tragic hero is always better than 'lived happily ever after' - too Disney!


What if Lily dying for Harry and Harry not dying that night has somehow broken the cycle. I may just be reaching here, but it seem possible. Right? Speaking of that fateful night, has there been a thread were it's discussed wether or not there was someone else there that night besides Lily James HP and Voldemort? Just curious.
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I like your thinking SnapeLovesLily
That last part, not even I made that connection but seems right doesn't it - in order for Harry to be with his family - he has to die - not least because JKR said we will never see an alive Lily and James. Harry does not fear death - all these people who died in his short lifetime has gone to show Harry that when the time is right, you can help others and be honourable - then death really is nothing to fear and the next great adventure. I think a deceased Harry will really end the books, will regain parity on a freak event that transpired 15 years before - cyclic and all, he should have died that night - instead he lived - now it is time to finish the job, finally kill Voldemort and join his family ... the end!
A tragic hero is always better than 'lived happily ever after' - too Disney!
Oh Laddie, you are going to break so many hearts giving JKR ideas like that.

I mentioned in other forums, and will mention again. If she killed Harry, I am sending all my books, DVDS, HP collectibles back to her on overnight shipping.
I think one of the Weasleys have got to go. There are just too many of them. Percy would do just fine.
Here is my thinking:
Remus has a debt of friendship. He lost James and Sirius. He will kill wormtail or Greyback or both and will die along with them.
Snape will die proving at last that his loyalties were with Order, not Dark lord.
Hagrid looks like a posibility too. But JKR loves him too much. So you never know.
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Old 20-08-2006, 17:42   #35
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Re: Rowling to kill two in final Potter book

i like the idea of Harry getting to be with his family again, as much as i don't want him to die, i think he deserves eternal happiness.
it might touch on religion a bit too much though, going in to the afterlife thing. but i guess we've seen the come from Voldemort's wand, seeing them come to take Harry (save him from Nearly Headless Nick) would be nice.
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Re: Rowling to kill two in final Potter book

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What if Lily dying for Harry and Harry not dying that night has somehow broken the cycle. I may just be reaching here, but it seem possible. Right? Speaking of that fateful night, has there been a thread were it's discussed wether or not there was someone else there that night besides Lily James HP and Voldemort? Just curious.
See that is my thought as well - by Lily keeping Harry alive, she almost kept Voldemort alive but also created the tools to kill him ... OK, that prolly made no sense!
It all seems cyclic - if you break the cycle - you have a start and an end - in this case they all seem to come back to the Fateful night ... so look at what happened that might have continued the cycle and then break it - Voldemort was almost killed, Harry should have been killed ... something stepped in the way and prevented this freak outcome .. but I think all they did was postpone the date with death until Harry could also ensure Voldemort dies as well ...
It's like the Sirius thing - he was doomed to die, they prevented his death in PoA but it was merely a postponement versus prevention!
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Re: Rowling to kill two in final Potter book

(falls into a fetal position and rocks back and forth muttering "Not Luna, Not Luna, Anyone But Luna" over and over again)

ok, i really hope she doesnt kill Luna b/c if she did i might just have to cry for three days in mourning. who do i think she will kill? i wanna say one of the weasleys because it will affect harry the most and will push him to take on voldemort. i also wanna say Lupin, because he is harry's last link to knowing what his parents were, and the last of the marauders, who harry would actually talk to. so, yeah, i hope i am wrong, but i think that those are the people she is most likely to kill.
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Re: Rowling to kill two in final Potter book

Did we all notice that JKR killed off all four of the original Marauders?

James, Sirius, Peter, and Remus?

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Re: Rowling to kill two in final Potter book

I had guessed that she would do that, it seemed right somehow. I had hoped though that Peter Pettigrew would have repented and actively worked for Harry in the end and could have died a true marauder.
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