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21-09-2004, 15:29
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Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
Voldemort's wand would have been left behind at Godric's Hollow after the murders. So whoever kept it and gave it back to Voldemort was at the Potters the night of the attack. From what we know though, the only people at the house that night were Dumbledore, Hagrid, Sirius, Voldemort and the Potters themselves. None of which I would suspect keeping it and returning it when he rose again.
So - Who else was their that night to recover his wand? Was Peter there to deliver the Potter's right into his master's hands, and grabbed the wand before he left? Or was Snape there, and under his guise of being a faithful Death Eater. he grabbed the wand and returned it? Or was there someone else there that night that would return it to him, and if there was, who was it?
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29-09-2004, 07:56
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
If it was wormtail, he would have had to have stashed it before his showdown with Sirius later, if it was Snape, he would not be as loyal as we thought to Dumbledore if he gave "V" back his wand
I am not sure about that one because it would have had to be stashed for over a decade, the ministry could have confiscated it and malfoy could have retrieved it of course, but I dont have a good theory
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29-09-2004, 14:39
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
I think Snape returned it to him. Snape was around and I think he might of picked it up and gave it back to Voldemort to show he was still loyal.
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30-09-2004, 06:23
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
If Snape returned it to him I think that Dumbledore would prolly have known by now. I really don't think Dumbledore would have Snape teaching if he had done something of that magnitude.
My guess is it very well could have been Peter - Since he was an unregistered animagus only the 4 marauders would have known who he was. With Peter dead and Sirius not ariving till after the murders he easily could have snuck in under the disguise of a rat and took the wand and hid it somewhere. Cause looking into book GoF, the first time we see Voldemort reunited with his wand is right at the beginning when he's with Peter. Peter was the sole reason Voldemort started regaining his power - He came and found him and nursed him back to health. It makes sense that he at least hid the wand himself or knew where it was to go and get it.
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30-09-2004, 14:06
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
Rooster is the man with the money on this one!
While I dont usually like 'I agree' posts I feel that Rooster has summed that one up very well!
While it is safe to assume Pettigrew was no-where near the Potters that night because of his cowardice, he had the means to return and pick through the remains pretty much at any point ... and I would guess he went to take a look after Black confrounted him.
But lest we not forget about a few other items that found there way out of the Potters House, the vault key and invisiblity cloak were a couple of obvious ones, someone did decided to have a little trawl through afterwards ...
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30-09-2004, 14:22
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
Ok I was under the impression that whoever got "V"'s wand was there that night--I would assume Hagrid would have seen "V"'s wand near Harry when he got there
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01-10-2004, 12:07
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
The house was quoted as being destroyed, this is yet again another reason I think another person might have been present, AK leaves no mark and if a rebounded AK has a different effect then you would have expected Voldemort to be ripped apart and probably Harry in a bad shape from the blast ...
..and as mentioned above, a few items were recovered from the house ...
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'It's all my fault, all my fault'
'Please make it stop, I know I did wrong, oh, please make it stop and i'll never, never again..'
'Don't hurt them, don't hurt then, please, please, it's my fault, hurt me instead ...'
'Please, please, please, no ... not that, not that, I'll do anything ...'
Dumbledore - HBP Pg536
'Merely taking your life would not satisfy me..'
Dumbledore - OoTP "The only one he ever feared" Pg895
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08-10-2004, 15:17
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
As we all know Lucius Malfoy has played a large part in collecting Voldemorts old school things. Would that include the wand?
The ministry may have had it. - Then while Crouch was being controlled by means of the imperius curse, the wand may have been retrieved. He could also have have had access to other wizard wands before this. Bertha Jorkins, Peter Pettigrew and such.
We do know one thing though - He definately had his own wand when he met Bertha, so he had his wand early on.
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09-10-2004, 02:13
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
I had a feeling the 'items' Lucius had were passed to Voldemort before he went out and attacked the Potters ... part of his ensuring he was always around ...
Lucius has had to keep up a public private facade and I cant see any legitimate reason he could go to the Potters - as such he wouldn't have wanted to be spotted ...
This is more likely the result of a rat 
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'It's all my fault, all my fault'
'Please make it stop, I know I did wrong, oh, please make it stop and i'll never, never again..'
'Don't hurt them, don't hurt then, please, please, it's my fault, hurt me instead ...'
'Please, please, please, no ... not that, not that, I'll do anything ...'
Dumbledore - HBP Pg536
'Merely taking your life would not satisfy me..'
Dumbledore - OoTP "The only one he ever feared" Pg895
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10-10-2004, 09:22
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Re: Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?
I can only guess that at some stage Wormtail must have visited Godric's Hollow, obviously not long after Voldemort had performed the Avada Kadavra curse on Harry, seen the devastation and picked up Voldemort's wand, probably without really knowing why he was doing so.
He probably then hid it somewhere and when he was eventually discovered as Scabbers, then recovered the wand before he went in search of Voldemort before we see them both again at the beginning of GoF when Wormtail is 'nursing' Voldemort before the re-birthing 'ceremony'.
I can't see that it could have been anyone else - even if it was Snape, Dumbledore, Sirius, Lupin or even Hagrid, how would Wormtail have been able to give it back to him in the graveyard?
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