Harry is a Horcrux - Lily's?

jraynack

Time Turners
Harry is his Mother's Horcrux

This is some idle speculation - I do believe Harry is possibly a Horcrux, but more than likely his mother's rather than Voldemort's.

It is possible that James, in order to save his wife and Harry from Voldemort, sacrificed himself to Lily to provide the death needed to create the Horcrux.

I initially thought that Harry is his father's Horcrux (or even both of his parents, but that seems unlikely), since there are a lot of similarities between father and son - but that could be genes and I couldn't seeing James allowing Lily to sacrifice herself for him.

This is just a theory - something to toy around with before the final book is released.

I think the fact that Harry has his mother's eyes is significant as J.K. pointed out in an interview, but more importantly is what Harry said to Snape about his father never strutting about Hogwart's - how would Harry know that during that point in the series. His mother would, since they went to school together and it sounds like something she might have told Snape (defending her husband).

I know it is in the movie, Prisoner of Azkaban, but I am not sure this was said in the book (I lent my book out, so I can't look it up). However, J.K. said that there was something in the third movie that unknowingly foreshadows what is to come.

Anyway, any thoughts to support? I am a casual reader of the series at best, so my Harry Potter lore isn't as solid as others.

As a side note, could Dumbledore have a Horcrux - the pensieve perhaps? And who died to make it possible - Nicolas Flamel perhaps? Another "out there" thought.
 

Sir Cadogan

Noble Heart, Steely Sinew
Re: Harry is his Mother's Horcrux

There has been a thread on this already.
I'm afraid your theory or speculation does not stand the test of comparing it to what is said about horcruxes in JKR's books. Horcruxes are evil by definition. You have to kill to make one. - Neither James nor DD would *ever* even think of doing something like that.
 

gbogbo

Time Turners
Re: Harry is his Mother's Horcrux

There has been a thread on this already.
I'm afraid your theory or speculation does not stand the test of comparing it to what is said about horcruxes in JKR's books. Horcruxes are evil by definition. You have to kill to make one. - Neither James nor DD would *ever* even think of doing something like that.

Yes, we've already discussed this, but I beg to differ:

It is possible that Lily sacrificed herself in order to save Harry. Suicide just at the moment the Voldemort was going to kill Harry. I don't think she made a Horcux, per se, but I think she made a related charm that gave Harry her soul for just a split second so that Harry would have a double when Voldemort AK'd him. The charm required a death, like a Horcrux, but it was based on love, so it couldn't be a Horcrux. Of course, I don't know what it was, but JK Rowling talks about Lily's "sacrifice". What else did she have to sacrifice, but herself?

The eyes are the window to the soul, and Harry has his mother's. How strange...
 

Piper

Time Turners
Re: Harry is his Mother's Horcrux

Well I don't think Harry is a Horcrux at all, but he surely couldn't be Lily's Horcrux because then Lily would have had to have murdered James herself, and we know that Voldemort for certain murdered James because James and Lily came out of the end of his wand in GOF.

I think the eyes significance is going to turn out to be in where Lily got the Green Eyes that she passed on to Harry. JKR has said that Lilys parents were normal muggles who died normal muggle deaths that were not significant to the story. But she has never said that Lily and Petunia didn't have another relative or relatives who were not magical.

Lily's sacrifice was that she fought to the death to save Harry when it was not necessary, she was given the option to live and watch him die, and she sacrificed her life fighting in vain to save his life. But I think personally that more than that had to have happened in order for Harry to have rebounded that curse.

We have discussed a lot of these things on other threads, but heck this is the last week, a good time to go on record with predictions and all I think:)
 

Alz

Administrator
Staff member
I guess this is what makes we wonder if there is such as thing as a good horcrux, sporned from the opposit of what leads to a bad horcrux.
Lily was offered a chance to live but she wouldnt, so imagine if Voldemort was planning to use her death as a horcrux maker - if the death comes from sacrifice versus plain killing - it is possible the effect could morph right?
I mean, we know the AK at Harry morphed!
I merged the thread as it seems like a duplicate of this thread.
I wanted to quote myself as this is the only way I would see Harry being Lily's horcrux - JKR said Lily had no idea what she did would work - mix that with having to do dark magic which Horcruxes are - I think the only way it would sit right with me is if there is an opposite to the bad spell.
 
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