How many twists..........

[Sirius Potter Fan]

I agree Tobias, that is a very good point, and Rory, thanks for looking up the quote, that does shed some light on the possibility. And I like that possibility. Arthur would be the perfect MoM in my opinion. He is not "pure blood" biased, and as said before, he would relate well with the muggles, even better with a little help from Harry and Hermionie. We haven't seen his strength of power yet, but with suggestions in other threads, he could likely be very powerful! I think to most, Arthur would be a welcomed, but unsuspected twist!

 

[jimbo716]

Just as an unsubstantiated wild idea...
Ron has been working against HP for a lonnnggg time.
DD's brother was already dead when snape "killed" him while posing as DD.

 

[Sirius Potter Fan]

DD's brother was already dead when snape "killed" him while posing as DD

that could be, I somewhat hold out for the DD is alive theory, and it's based upon Rowling's answers to a few questions. first she has said when asked if DD is alive or dead "Yes the old man in the long silver beard is dead" then she has also said again to the same inquiry "Yes Dumbledore is definately dead" But . . . the significance I see is that she is so cleaver with her wording. She has never been asked specificaly if "Albus Dumbledore" is dead, nor has she specificaly said that "Albus Dumbledore" is dead.

 

[horcruxfinder]

I am actually reading OOTP again DW, and I was just wondering if any one else noticed that the thing that Harry dreads the most and would be a fate worse than death to him would be to have to live on Privet Drive forever amongst muggles. DD has often said to LV that there are things worse than death. It does seem in that book that the one thing that would be worse than death to him would be that. He talks about it when he is thinking of returning to Privet Drive after witnessing the snake attack on Arthur. He also talks about it whenever he is empathizing with Sirius's plight. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[Sirius Potter Fan]

That is something . . . and . . . just think, if Harry thinks sometlhing like that is worse than Death, what would Voldemort think . . . and this makes me think again of the book cover (US) Neither has a wand . . . still makes me wonder. Thing of it is, Voldemort powerless, is still crafty and evil. Even without his powers, he would find ways to cause loads of trouble. But would Voldemort think that way? Would he perhaps just be glad he was still alive, . . . I don't think so . . . Kind of like Lex Luthor, he would find a way to come back and seek power again.

 

[Lovegood54]

ok, i guess i miss remembered. but you do bring up the point of having a person you have to beg and plead to take the job. heres what i have to say about that: i dont want someone who doesnt want the job to take it. cause if they dont want the job, they will not really try very hard to do a good job. if anything, i would want someone who needed to be CONVINCED to take the job. meaning, someone who was just hesitant, not out right against the job. Arthur doesnt really want to be minister of magic, he doesnt really even like his promotion! Arthur would rather live in poverty working with muggles than be minister of magic. after all, he basically lived in poverty with his family for (i dont know exacts, but i will go out on a limb) at most since he left school, and at least most of his married life. this is evidenced by how ron doesnt ever remember not being poor. anyway, to summerize, Arthur may make a good Minister of Magic, but i doubt he would ever take the job. he prefers working with muggles.

 

[Sirius Potter Fan]

Well, if not the minister, what if a new position were opened if not tailor maid for Arthur, Ambassador to Muggles. Perhaps it will be decided that there needs to be more communication between the magical and nonmagical worlds.

 

[notposs]

Maybe the whole existence of magic as a whole will be revealed to the muggles and the ministry has to deal with the muggles as well as Big V

 

[Dr Winterbourne]

That is exactly what I was just thinking, notposs.

With the Sorting Hat's encouragments to unite:

Slytherin needs to get closer with the other houses. Slughorn seems to be a man that could do this a little better than Snape, with his networking skills. Harry seemed to be warming a little to Malfoy at the very end of HBP, thinking about how he lowered his wand. If Harry could take the final step, and redeem Malfoy, then that would be a big step to this unity. I still believe that Snape and Sumbledore had an arrangement that was designed to save Malfoy - like Aslan dying to save Edmund. If arry and Malfoy could make unite, anyone can.

I've long thought that perhaps the Muggles world could get united with the wizarding one. I'd love to see Dudders helping with his boxing skilld - just picure an adventure that had Dudley and the Weasley twins in it. It'd be a fun read. Butif Harry can manage to reunite the worlds, blend the Muggle and Wizarding communities, then Arthur would be the perfect Minister - he's not in it for the money, nor te prestige, nor the power, and he has no animosity towards the Muggles.

Hmm. But it will make the books seem less'plausible' though. When we are all living here, and there is no contact between us and this hidden world.

On anothe tack - who will be the staff at Hogwarts? Perhaps it will be the 6 who were in the Headmasters office at the end of HP - McGanagall as head, Sprout, Flitwick, Slughorn and Hagrid as heads of house, and Harry as head boy. We still need a DADA teacher.

 

[Sirius Potter Fan]

Well, as far as DADA teacher, Lupin can come back or the real Moody . . . but . . . they will most likely be busy elsewhere . . . Most likely someone new, but . . . JKR has said we have been introduced to everyone now, so . . . Shunpike? NO! just kidding LOL! A cured Frank or Alice Longbottom would work. Aberforth maybe??? hmmmmmm. Sounds like something she might think of.

 

[Lovegood54]

Maybe Harry will be asked to be DADA teacher? afterall, McGonagall knows about Dumbledores army, and would have definately seen improvement in Neville, if no one else. Also, Harry has great experience, you know? he has faced Voldemort 3 times (first year with the stone, second year against young voldemort/tom riddle, and in the graveyard in year 4), and dueled him in 1 of the encounters (year 4), and has bested many Death Eaters in his two encounters with them he has had (the Department of Mysteries, and in the school). so if he doesnt plan on returning to hogwarts as a student, maybe he will be the new DADA teacher. for those who believe harry is going to die, this could be worth thinking about since we all know the DADA position is cursed.

but if harry wont be teaching DADA, then it will probably be one of the Aurors in the Order who will teach it. like mayube shacklebolt or tonks. i dont think moody will take the job (too many bad memories of being locked in the trunk. so if its even possible, he is probably even MORE paranoid than he was before) its also possible that the ministry will put a teacher there, you know? just so they get the best possible teacher, and not as an outpost like it was with umbridge.

 

[Dr Winterbourne]

I think Harry might have quite enough to be getting on with this year to be able to spare time to be a full time teacher. I'd love to see Lupin settled, but he's still a werewolf, and the mummies wouldn't like it.

But I do like the idea of Harry taking the job eventually - to be the one that breaks Voldemort's curse. It all sits nicely - so nicely that I don't know how the Auror ambition will fit in. She tends to show actions having consequences, and so, him planning for being an Auror will probably be paid off by him being an Auror.

 

[tobias]

Yes, that is what he wants. But is that what he is meant to be? Remember how he felt when Hermoine and Ron asked him to teach DADA- he reacted very strongly against but found himself planning lessons. I can see him teaching, after the curse is gone.

Having said that, I still would like to see him be the youngest ever Minister for Magic and have 12 children...

 

[Sirius Potter Fan]

I almost suggested him above, but thought that at least in 7th year he couldn't. One, He is quite likely to be busy with other things. another thing, he never could master the silent spells. Who knows maybe with some help from Lupin over the summer? I would like to see him teach, and after Voldemorts defeat I think that possible. He wants to be an auror . . . but I think that experience of defeating Voldemort will be enough for him.

 

[Lovegood54]

the only reason Harry had trouble learning to cast silent spells in DADA in the sixth year was because Snape was teaching the course. as far as learning silent spells in his other classes, we are not told he failed. he struggled, yeah, but he got it eventually. we have to assume as much cause if he hadnt, we would have been told. also, your forgetting that DADA is Harry's BEST subject, which means with a little help from Hermione, and with a text book in front of him (hermione would be helping by decoding any really hard words, or reducing really complex language to simpler language) he would become really well trained in silent spells over the summer. Also, dont forget about the fact that he would have Lupin there helping him practice the silent spells, as well as tonks and the weasleys (Arthur and Molly would be more than willing to help, Bill would too. and Fred and George would jump on any chance to see some chaos, which is what we would see with Harry learning really powerful jinxes, hexes, curses, and such. so yeah, Silent Spells relating to DADA, most likely a piece of cake for harry. maybe not the easiest cake to eat, but its still cake. we'll say fruit cake.

 

[Sirius Potter Fan]

You know . . . it could be possible . . . I just remembered, that Harry did succede in doing one nonverbal spell . . . levicorpus . . .when he first read it in the HBP's book. So you are right, most of the reason he didn't do them in class was because of the intimidation he feels from Snape! Thanks for setting me right!

 

[notposs]

I have just got a theorie for SPF and the rest who belive HINAH, well more for the people who think he is... anyway do you guys think that if Harry took the position of DADA teacher the curse would be broken as Harry has part of Voldemort in him it would be like Voldemort geting the position thus breaking the curse... That is ofcourse if Harry is a horcrux???

 

[Sirius Potter Fan]

that is interesting Notposs, I hadn't thought about the curse part. But of course, either way, even if Harry is not a Horcrux, the curse will be broken with Voldemort's death. or . . . . WAIT! . . . OMG! LOL!

Harry does not kill Voldemort, but surrounds him with so much love that he completely changes his ways . . . no longer the most powerful dark wizard, he is now the most powerful GOOD wizard! Voldemort becomes known as Professor Riddle and takes the position of DADA, and thus the curse is entirely eliminated! Riddle retires from teaching when he is 177 years old and is considered one of the greatest professors to ever enter the school!

Well . . . that would be a twist!

 

[Dr Winterbourne]

If Harry defeats Voldemort, will they still need Aurors?

Are the Aurors a special task force, set up to deal with the 'Voldemort Issue', or are they a perennial presence in the wizarding community?

If the office dissolves after V's defeat, then Harry is there to fill the hole in the DADA, and break the curse. He and Ginny could take a married couple's suite in Hogwarts, Harry could work out of thet office he has seen in so many guises, and Ginny could run the Bat Bogey Hex club. Or possibly teach charms.

I wonder if the book will end in June as they tend to, or if we'll see what they all go on to do. Ron and Hermione married - her working in some capacity creating unity between the magical races, maybe even with a house elf of her own to treat well. Fred and George own Zonko's and have branches around the wizarding world etc.

 

[Lovegood54]

Aurors will still be needed. they are the special agents of the wizarding world. they deal with dark wizards, and i must assume there is a subsection of the auror office that is mad eup of more general law enforcers. So the Aurors are like the FBI in the US, you know? they will still be needed, and will still be there, waiting for the next Voldemort to come along, and until he does, they will be taking care of larger wizard crimes, like murders and what not.

then again, i could be wrong and the Aurors are the police of the wizarding world. if this is the case, they will no longer have an all out man hunt for voldemort and return to general law enforcing.
no, hold on, scratch that second one. i just remembered an the trial chapter in book 5. harry asks about the jinxed toilets, and asks if it will be the aurors who catch the guys and arthur told him it wouldnt be.
which reminds me of this: the aurors were hunting Voldemort before Harry was born, and then the curse rebounded and tried and failed to kill voldemort, but everyone basically assumed he was dead. and guess what? the aurors were still there! OMG! if this comes as a surprise to anyone then your all forgetting shacklebolt (he's auror!) and Tonks (OMG SHE IS TOO!!!) and guess whic hbook we met them in? thats right, we met them in the book where the Ministry of Magic was trying to make it out the Dumbledore (God rest his soul) had gone senile and that harry was just trying to stir up trouble to get attention and that his was a troubled child. so yeah, if the Aurors only existed to catch Voldemort, i am pretty sure both Tonks ans Shacklebolt would have been unemployed when we met them, or more likely would have had other ministry jobs. hope that helps with a twist of No dream job for Harry if he survives to take up a proffession.