Was Snape Who You Thought?

Was Snape Who You Thought He Was?

  • Yes, I always knew he was one of the good guys!

    Votes: 28 73.7%
  • No, I thought he was truly evil!

    Votes: 10 26.3%

  • Total voters
    38

Fortescue

Totally Potterfied!
hmmmm, i think that harry had to sarcifice himself, and that if he knew he would survive it wouldnt be the same. as for dumbledore knowing snape would die...well im not sure, he did say to tell harry he would die but still voldemort wanted the elder wand, snape couldnt escape that

That's all part of it, though. The only people who knew that Draco had disarmed Dumbledore on top of the tower was Harry, Dumbledore, and Draco. Of course, Harry did not tell Snape anything after he killed Dumbledore, Draco obviously did not say anything, and I'm positive that Snape did not know that Dumbledore possessed the Elder Wand. Dumbledore shared the fact he possessed the Elder Wand with no one. The only person who knew he had won the wand from Grindlewald, was Grindlewald and Voldemort.

I know there are very big reasons why Dumbledore did not share that information with anyone. He wanted to make sure that the wand disappeared. I'm surprised he did not put it away and hide it or destroy it. Even if it were more powerful than any other wand, he did not intend to use it as such. Sure, he fought Voldemort with it in the DoM, but as we found out, he had never killed anyone with it and he obviously did not intend to kill Voldemort, only defend the situation.

Maybe if Snape had any of this knowledge he might have survived. He obviously knew that Voldemort took the wand from Dumbledore's tomb. Snape might have been ignorant of the importance of the wand and why it was that Voldemort wanted it badly enough to break open Dumbledore's tomb. But had he any of the knowledge that Dumbledore kept secret, might he have survived?

Dumbledore had his reasons for all the secrets and I hate to say that Harry and Snape were both pawns in his plans, but the outcome was for the greater good, I suppose.
 

Sirius Potter Fan

Night Patroll
http://www.thefinalhorcrux.com/forum/showthread.php?p=33608#
Fort said:
http://www.thefinalhorcrux.com/forum/showthread.php?p=33608#

I guess it kind of does come down to that. If Harry had known that there was any chance of surviving Voldemort, It would not have made his "death" a pure sacrifice, so . . . in offering himself knowing he would live, he would have in turn actualy died. Now, whether Snape needed to know that one way or the other, can't say really, it diggs very deeply in the two characters psychology, a psychology that only their creator understands.

I don't think that Snape having knowledge of the elder wand previously would have made any difference. As stated previously he would himself have had no way of knowing who the true owner of the wand truly was himself. I also don't think that Dumbledore forsaw the entrance of the wand's ownerdhip enter into the stew, and I think he didn't forsee Draco winning it from him instead of Snape, so he couldn't have forseen Snape being in the position of having to die so Voldemort could "posses" the Elder wand.
 

Piper

Time Turners
Dumbledore intended for Snape to be the owner of the Elder Wand, not Draco though apparently, he expected Snape to end up with it he said.
 

Fortescue

Totally Potterfied!
But if Snape had the wand and did not know its purpose, what would he have done with it? If he did not know what Dumbledore's wand was, it would have been buried in the tomb with Dumbledore, just as it was. Either way, Voldemort would have taken it, and either way Snape would have died. the only difference would have been in one instance Voldemort was wrong and in the other he would have been right.
 

Piper

Time Turners
I didn't get what they meant by it didn't work out that Snape didn't get the wand, Dumbledore just said that.

Wasn't there a big fire before the toom though?
 

claymore04

Time Turners
:cool:I had said a month before the book came out after I had read the whole series twice through. I felt the main message was love. Then I thought about what DD said to Harry about telling VM about the prophecy was the greatest regret of Snape's life. I didn't think he knew her though. That suprised me. Anyway the locket was also a thought of mine when I read R.A.B. She kept making slights about Regulus in either four (G.O.F.) or five (O.O.T.P.)
 

claymore04

Time Turners
He would have DD's portrait to back him up.

I honestly thought Harry would use Hogwarts as a base in the final book. That way the loss of DD wouldn't have mattered because he would have communed with the portrait for advice every now and then. JKR completly reversed it and I still re-read DH every now and then.
 

claymore04

Time Turners
Dumbledore intended for Snape to be the owner of the Elder Wand, not Draco though apparently, he expected Snape to end up with it he said.

The magic of the wand escaped it dying out by latching on to Draco. Snape would have marched that wand straight to VM, unwillingly of course.
 
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